Toilet Training Policy

[canadianjule]

Hello Ladies!

This is my first post so here goes...I am just wondering what your policy is on toilet training? Do you have one and if so would you mind sharing what the policy is.

Thanks for taking the time to read this :)

[fruitloop]

This is my policy...

"We will work in conjunction with parents during potty training. If you have a method that has been working for you, please let me know and I will adopt it for your child. We will work with you – but not for you. Should you discontinue potty training at home, please let me know. If a child shows no interest in potty training, I may choose to discontinue and try again at a later date. If you choose to potty train with underwear, please be sure to supply plastic pants to keep “the mess” contained and please supply a lot of extra underwear and clothes. Soiled clothing will be sent home to be washed. Children must be dry (including bowel movements) in a pull up/diaper or plastic pants for 2 weeks before they will be allowed to wear underwear without plastic pants."

I won't do the work for them...they need to start it at home and I will continue it here.

[canadianjule]

Thanks for sharing - I really appreciate it :)

[daycare woman]

Oh I really like that fruit loop, I currently have a 2 1/2 who has been in training since 2 and 1 month. Its not working had to say we need to stop and go back to pull ups I was constantly shampooing and very tired of it! I would almost like to adopt something like I will not attempt training until 2 and 1/2. At least at that point they have a bit more maturity and understanding of what needs to be done. Any children that I know incl my child was trained in a week -2 weeks, when they are ready it happens very fast. I heard the other day on the Parenting show, Allison said the earlier you start the longer it takes, and I now see what she means! I PVR'd the show and I'm going to take notes from it when I have time to kill, a lot of helpful info.
Anyway I have new carpet coming, so I will be making changes to my toilet training policies. I was told they still leak through the plastic covers. Another idea which I may do is having underwear on and then putting a pull up on. They are still in undies training but its so much easier to catch the mess!

[Judy Trickett]

I don't toilet train kids - that's the parents job. I WILL assist in it. And by that, I mean that I will take kids to the bathroom when they ASK me to go. I simply will not take a kid to the potty every 20 minutes. I don't have time for that. When a kid tells me they have to pee then I take them. If they don't then we just continue on in a diaper all day until THEY are ready to recognize AND tell me they have to go.

ALL kids stay in a pull-up or a diaper until they are accident FREE (as in DRY ALL DAY LONG) for 2 weeks.

[giraffe]

Yup... accident FREE for 2 weeks at MY house.

I also really push the point that "The child needs to be able to TELL ME that they have to use the washroom" (in other words "No I will not be spending my entire day camped out beside the toilet")

[playfelt]

I don't allow the underwear for training here either in the sense that I am not paid enough to constantly clean up carpets etc after them and I have the others to think about in the sense of the carpet or floor is unsanitary till I can clean it properly - not fair to the others or me. I usually find once a child is able to wake up from naptime with a dry diaper they are ready to start potty training. I put them on after nap and usually "catch" that one which starts the process rolling. We have scheduled diaper breaks throughout the day and children learn to hold it and pee on demand so to speak. If they can't stay dry for the hour - two hours between changes then they are not ready. Just because a child tells me every 20 mins they have to piddle is not really training. I just do not have the time to build that many trips to the bathroom into the schedule and as you all know the needs of one child can not dominate the needs of the group for more than a day here and there. When ready we switch to pullups but use a diaper at naptime. I have used underwear under the pullup for the final stage with the idea that if the underwear stays dry for 2 whole weeks then we can try leaving off the outer layer (pullup). One accident and the two weeks starts counting over again beginning with the following monday. Parents are encouraged to have them in just underwear evenings and weekends and to turn control for knowing when to go over to the child to speed up the process - and they get to see just how many accidents the child is still having.

Parents often need reminding that it isn't my job to hover over a child and watch for signs. If I see them fine but my eyes are on lots of things all day. Generally the parents that start the earliest seem to become the most frustrated and in the end all the kids are trained in due course so why go to the extreme to make it happen a month earlier.

Another thing I feel strongly about is that I do not give "rewards" for peeing. We don't give candies for eating lunch, or taking off shoes, or putting on a hat. These are considered maturity rites of passage and using the toilet is the same. It also is the fairest solution in daycare when you have children in various stages of learning at the same time. For families that do choose the reward method when a child does go we make an issue about it and tell them to remind me to tell mommy that they earned their treat at daycare. Then at pickup we talk about it and it is up to the parent to give the reward at home. That way too whatever a family chooses candy, sticker, penny, etc. stays consistent for them.

[canadianjule]

Thank you all for such wonderful replies! I have one further question. For boys, do you insist that boys sit while going through the whole potty learning process or do you not care either way if they sit or stand. I just have these visions of pee landing everywhere but in the toilet :ohmy:

[playfelt]

My boys sit. They don't have enough control and sometimes not enough reach to get it in the toilet and yes they don't pay attention to what they are doing. Also it is a time thing in the sense they get bored standing and when sitting can read a book or whatever. I also find and don't take this the wrong way folks but size matters, lol. It just isn't long enough to hang over the toilet. Also depending on circumcision and how much a child sweats it doesn't move around much either - hence points down not out - can you tell I have been toilet training all boys for a long time it seems. Another issue is that sometimes they don't realize they need to pee and poo and I have had more than one stand there and poop while trying to pee. Hence if we sit we catch whatever.

[canadianjule]

:laugh: Too funny!! Thanks for the response and the laugh playfelt...I needed a giggle today!

[mlc1982]

Great tips/ideas! I will be facing the potty training issue soon enough so I'm glad this post was started.

[whatdoiknow]

How do you tell the parent its time to take away the pull up. I have a 3 year old who is ready but reley on the pull up toomuch. No accident for months. I have mentions it before but they thinkhe is not ready. I have taken the pull sup off and the child cries because they want the pull up.

[playfelt]

As long as the parents are the ones paying for them and supplying I wouldn't worry about it. It is their choice.

[Play and Learn]

How do you tell the parent its time to take away the pull up. I have a 3 year old who is ready but reley on the pull up toomuch. No accident for months. I have mentions it before but they thinkhe is not ready. I have taken the pull sup off and the child cries because they want the pull up.

I would tell the parents that he's no longer using the pull-ups, and pack them up and give it to them at the end of the day (well, keep some during nap times). Maybe they'll get the idea. Some children may be potty trained during the day, but still can wet themselves when they sleep. If they don't get it, just continue to not use it! And he's potty trained with you!

[playfelt]

But how do you get the parent to bring the child in underwear? If they aren't comfortable letting the child ride in the car in just underwear then they are likely bringing the child in a pullup so caregiver is stuck with just pullups. I have one that could probably go into underwear except naptime but he is content in a pulllup, uses the toilet and hasn't had an accident here in over a month but he still wets in the evenings and when he sits to watch tv such as a movie or on weekends at home so he is just being lazy. Here I think the normal routine helps him go because he must try potty before certain events like sitting for lunch.

[Play and Learn]

Keep asking the parents for the underwear. You could start doing this: having the child wearing their pull-up and then the undies overtop.

Before the child goes home, put him in a pull-up. But comment to the parents at the end of each day that he hasn't had any accidents!

[FernT]

:)What Was On Me First
Cloth training pants! That was due to that I was terrified being naked and being inside pants, which I’d see my penis and butt crack and that still see my penis and butt crack inside pants! While I got a crush being inside my cloth training pants, due to the soft feel on my penis and butt crack and covers my penis and butt crack! That’s why I walked into daycare inside my cloth training pants! Cloth training pants were my love pants! Even when I could take of my pants, my cloth training pants were still on me due to being unambulatory to take of my cloth training pants!

[FernT]

What Was On Me When I First Peed! That was cloth training pants due That was due to that I was terrified peeing naked and inside pants which I’d see my pee! While I got a peeing inside my cloth training pants due to the soft feel on my pee and covers my pee! That’s why I only walked into daycare peeing inside my cloth training pants which no one could see even myself! That’s why when I peed outside my pants, I still was wet due to that I I still peed inside my cloth training pants that were still on!

[FernT]

pPros And Cons Of Cloth Training Pants
Pros: Soft feel on my pee and covers my pee! Soft feel on my penis and butt crack and covers my penis and my butt crack! Simple to slip on esp when needing to pee! My pee pants and love pants!
Cons! Captive inside my cloth training pants esp if I peed! Pee rash! Can’t strip of my cloth training pants, esp if I need to pee! Even after I’m ambulatory to pee outside my pants, I still peed inside my cloth training pants still on me I couldn’t strip of!

[FernT]

:crying:When I Felt I Peed Inside My Cloth Training Pants
I cried and spreaded my legs until I took a nap! Then I tried to hold my pee!

[FernT]

:crying:Then When I Peed Inside My Cloth Training Pants
I cried and went to the potty! Then I tried to open the front leg of my cloth training pants which I felt less pee and cried less!

[FernT]

When I First Peed Into The Potty
I never was naked due to that my cloth training pants were on which I was unambulatory to strip of! I’ve been peeing inside my cloth training pants and cried until I tried to open the front leg of my cloth training pants which I peed less inside my cloth training pants and cried less!

[FernT]

When I Was Naked And Had Too Pee In The Potty
I always held my pee and put on my cloth training pants! That was due to that I was terrified peeing naked seeing my pee come out of my penis! While I got a crush seeing I’m peeing inside my cloth training pants which my cloth training pants covers my penis which I got a crush seeing my pee coming out of my cloth training pants through my open front leg!

[FernT]

What Was I Captive In After Cloth Training Pants!
That was Boxer Brief Undies! That was due to that I was unambulatory to strip of my boxer brief undies!

[FernT]

What Was I Peeing In After Cloth Training Pants
That was boxer brief undies! That was due to that I was unambulatory to strip of my boxer brief undies!

[FernT]

Trouble With My Boxer Brief Undies Esp When Needing To Pee
That was due to that I was unambulatory to strip of my boxer brief undies! That’s why I tried to open the fly of my boxer brief undies!

[FernT]

If I Needed To Pee And I’m Outside My Boxer Brief Undies
I always held my my pee and slipped on my boxer brief undies! That was due to that I was terrified peeing naked and seeing my pee come out of my penis! While I got a crush peeing inside my boxer brief undies, my boxer brief undies covering my penis when peeing, and seeing my pee come out of my boxer brief undies through my open fly! Esp I got a crush seeing my pee come out of my solid dark blue boxer brief undies!

[FernT]

:pWhen I Esp Wear My Boxer Brief Undies!
That’s when I needed to pee! Just that I open the fly which my penis is wearing my boxer brief undies! Just that I’m too comfortable my boxer brief undies covers my penis peeing! Esp I’m too comfortable seeing my pee come out of my boxer brief undies!

[FernT]

:pPros And Cons Of My Boxer Brief Undies
Pros: Soft feel of cotton on me when I pee and covers my pee! Soft feel on my penis and butt crack and covering my penis and butt crack! Simple to slip on esp when needing to pee! Seeing my pee come out of my boxer brief undies though the open fly!
Cons: Captive in my boxer briefs esp if I peed inside my boxer brief undies! Difficult to strip of esp when needing to pee! I partially pee inside my boxer brief undies! I could only strip of my boxer brief undies halfway only uncovering my waist while my boxer brief undies still cover my penis and butt crack!

[FernT]

Must Be A Fly On Bottom And Back Of Panties
Esp for girls who’re unambulatory to strip of their panties! Such as when they need to pee, they just try open the fly on the bottom and back of of their new panties that they less seriously pee inside their new panties and cry less bitterly! Best is their new panties are covering their vagina! Esp that their pee is coming out of their new panties through the opening of their fly!